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From: kudut@ritz.mordor.com (Kenneth Udut)
Subject: Re: Windows 95 version
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In comp.protocols.kermit.misc on Fri, 1 Sep 1995 23:48:23 GMT,
jeffb@world.std.com (Jeffrey T Berntsen) writes:
> jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris) writes:
>
> >hounsell@cc.joensuu.fi (Paul Hounsell) writes:
>
> >> I really wish the developers would re-consider about doing a
> >>true GUI version of kermit that could be ported to Windows.
>
> >See today's KERMIT news from Frank da Cruz: Kermit 95 will be out later
> >this year. That's the good news; the bad news is that it won't be freeware
> >like the older KERMIT packages from Columbia. Frank estimated the street
> >price to be US$54; bulk, site, and academic pricing is being worked out.
>
> >I don't really like having to pay for it (or anything else, for that
> >matter) but it's difficult to argue with Frank's quite valid point that
> >everybody seems to be using KERMIT and few people are paying Columbia
> >anything for it. Idealism is fine, but somehow you've got to get enough
> >money to pay the bills. I spent twenty years in academia and I'm too
> >painfully aware of funding problems.
>
> All true, and I can see your and Frank's point. I still don't have to like
> it though. I think this charging for a version of kermit instead of its
> media (such as the kermit tapes available from Columbia) or its documentation
> is going to earn KERMIT, Columbia U., and Frank a great deal of ill will in
> the user community.
>
> Jeff Berntsen
> jeffb@world.std.com
I disagree.
Windows 95 is going to be (is?) a popular operating system.
I don't have the capability to use it, but from what I've
seen, it's much nicer than I had expected it to be.
I have no qualms whatsoever with Frank. If I were the type
to bow down to a living person, Frank would be near the top
of my list of idols.
Frank, anyone who can take the heat like you do, who
continues to support and promote dispite occasional
negativity, has earned more than regular ol' respect from
me.
Congratulations, Frank, for making the decision to charge
for Windows 95 Kermit. The people buying Windows 95 Kermit
will probably entice their lower-end computer friends to get
regular Kermit, especially if they get into script
programming.
It's time that Kermit gets on the shelf, and while I won't
be running even regular Windows for a long long time to
come, I'll suggest to everyone I know with Windows 95 to
purchase Kermit from the shelf, for it seems to be what
Kermit has needed for a very long time now.
Thank goodness you Kermit folks at Columbia had the
foresight *NOT* to write a Windows 3.x version, optimize
MS-DOS Kermit to work fantastically under Windows 3.x, and
wait for the next true operating system to get bundled with
every computer under the sun.
Ken
kudut@ritz.mordor.com
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